Originally Posted by kickstart

Everybody is obligated to do what they can, when they can within reason, nobody gets a free pass to do as they please without consideration for others.

In the real world most folks in all user groups understand, and do what's reasonable. Those with mental, or emotional defects who can't define what is, or act in a reasonable manner on their own are a lost cause as it should be self evident. Unfortunately we're stuck putting up with their caustic martyrdom, and selfish oblivion.

Another problem with groups is the "group mentality", which often leads to behavior that people as individuals otherwise wouldn't engage in.