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Old 05-26-15 | 08:39 AM
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No bike lanes at all here, but I still rate it pretty good. I have no problems at all cycling here. The driver attitude makes it pleasant.

IMO that's what it comes down to. You can build all the infrastructure you want, bad drivers can still make it unpleasant and dangerous. But good drivers can make it nice and safe even with no infrastructure.
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