I already have the Kings, just haven't installed them yet. I knew there were far more inexpensive options out there. Sometimes I like the idea of my money going to a guy in his garage in Colorado rather than an overseas corporation. Since 1991, Ron Andrews has been making them by hand on a jig that he created. You can see videos of him making them on YouTube. The stainless ones are far more reasonable, but you gotta go Ti on a Ti frame!