I think this is a good discussion because I'm having a little trouble finding the right bike, now that I've greatly reduced my touring load. I've ridden "classic" touring bikes for the last 40 years or so, my current one (Novarra Randonee) for nearly twenty. I've reduced the weight of the bike over the years by using lighter wheels, tires and seat, removing the front rack, sawing off the seat post, etc. But I like the geometry and braze-ons and the ability to add fenders. If I ever need a new bike, I just don't know what to buy. I don't want to pay for a touring bike then start cutting things off it. Many road bikes I see won't easily take a rack or fenders or an extra water bottle. The triple crank, though I seldom use it, is nice to have every once in a while when heavily loaded on a dirt road.

I'm sure I'll find a bike and make it work when needed, maybe just do without something I've gotten used to over the decades. I hope to get a few more years on my current bike. As long as the 3x7 shifters keep working....