Originally Posted by Road Fan

Ciocc is certainly in the upper ranks.

If you like the feel of a touring bike, look for an Italian racing bike from the '60s or early '70s. Earlier ones were more relaxed and more biased toward comfort. The lists seem to thing this was because roads were worse. In the late '80s and '90s geometries were getting steeper and ride stiffer.

I have a couple of Mondonicos and a couple of '80s Treks. The '80s Treks, while nice, are not in the same league as the great Italians. On paper, yes. On the road, no.