Originally Posted by mconlonx

Counterpoint: I used to do a fairly hilly commute and didn't mind doing it on a Nexus 8 IGH. Besides the range -- no matter how I geared it, I was always looking for either more top end or low end gearing. The drag of the internals wasn't really an issue I noticed, anymore than the slight drag from the dyno front hub. I imagine that an Alfine 11 would address the gearing issue somewhat, and I even rigged up a double-chainring --> Nexus 8 setup, but sold it shortly after without trying it out on an actual commute.

But now I ride a derailleur drivetrain bike. Part of the switch is that I learned to work on der drivetrains, so adjustments are no longer an issue. And for my uses of a folder, the 1x10 drivetrain on the Helix would be fine, especially with a wide range cass out back.

It's all good, no matter what you're using for a drivetrain, but for the price, I would save a few bucks and get the der drivetrain Helix. OTOH, I'd get either of the Downtube belt drive IGH bikes because they are such a screaming deal...