The Voyageur 11.8 is mark as chromo/butted main tubes (aka main triangle); read "it's other tube bits are something less than chromo". The World Voyageur is stated as being "butted chromo" in the catalog flyer, but I don't know if that's just the main triangle, or the seats and stays in addition. I'm curious to know which is lighter, though regardless which is lighter, I carry enough addition anchor weight in fleshiness to make a choice based upon frame weight differences full circle into a fair counter discussion of hypocrisy.