Originally Posted by
ColonelSanders
Yet they are probably 1-2lbs heavier than a titanium frame that most people would say was "light".
At times it is all very confusing to a noob like myself.
Light Ti frames are definitely still heavy compared to modern CF, I am looking at 3# for frame+fork+headset for my CF bike. That is less than a Ti frame (never mind fork and headset). My crosscheck actually measured ~8# before I cut the steer tube down (and before I added a headset).
I got comfortable with the kind of bike that would fit me and bought my frame 2nd-hand on ebay, so dollar-wise I still don't know if I was penny-wise/pound-foolish.
Obviously 5# of frame difference doesn't get a 32# bike down to 16, but it is harder to spring for 13# of everything else for an 8+# frameset vs a ~3# one.