Good info guys. Im thinking of picking up the new york legends chain Amazon.com: Kryptonite New York Legend 1515 Chain with New York Padlock (30 Inches Long When Locked): Sports & Outdoors for when we travel and the bikes have to stay on the bike rack over night. Also i do want to pick up a nice U lock. Thanks for the references Slow Bro. I dont mind the weight of a bit heavier lock, i kind of see it as a plus, im not going for big speed, so it should be ok.