Sure it may not be exactly related to LCF but at least everybody has been playing nice and behaving themselves, no insults and no name calling, unlike some other OT threads. I enjoyed reading all the replys...This thread is not as bad as some other threads where people fantasize about things such as hyperloops and try to promote skateboards, hangliders , segways, golf- carts, hoover-crafts and flying saucers as a practical form of transportation...How about some of the eco warriors on this forum who post all kinds of OT crap which is totally unrelated to LCF ??