Originally Posted by
PepeM
On a non-specific standpoint, why isn't it possible? In all sports records are broken all the time, why would cycling be different?
Who are these blind love followers? Don't think I have seen any of them in here.
'Allegations.' Also, if every winner has been busted or admitted using dope, wouldn't that say that the system works, therefore you should trust it and if Froome is indeed cheating, it will come out eventually?
What is not 'natural' about it? Do you have any proof beyond 'they are better than I think they should be.'
Did the system work with Armstrong? No, had he stayed retired after his first comeback and wasn't such a huge dick to people especially Floyd, Betsy, Emma, Frnakie, etc. he would have never have been dragged through the mud, deservedly so, and he would still be a "hero". So no, the system doesn't work. Also as that BBC article showed, it is quite easy to beat the "system" by micro-dosing. Again, the system doesn't work
As for records, let's take the baseball Home Run record, for years and years, no one was able to break it, until McGwire and Bonds did, and then guess what? They were doping. So do you really think it is logical for a clean cyclist to beat the times up climbs when everyone else was doped? Logic tells you that's not possible.
Again, everyone who has won the tour since 1996(And we can argue that Indurain doped) has doped except Sastre and Evans, and Evans was a documented client of Michele Ferrari, until Sky came along and dominated, yet I am to believe Sky is clean? Logically it doesn't make sense to me.
RE: NFL/Football players, there are endless articles, etc. of those guys using steroids and HGH. Why now are humans so much bigger/stronger/faster than before? I can buy sports science and training, to an extent, but what today's athletes are doing, just doesn't seem humanly possible. And again, so many have admitted or been busted.
Originally Posted by
Caretaker
I did.
That it's 'not possible' is your conclusion not the author of the article's.
Let me ask you this, seriously, do you believe a clean rider can beat all those times, when those times are set by known dopers? Again, use some logic. If it walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck...
I want to believe cycling is clean, yet it's not. Over and over again "clean" riders have been proven to be dopers, sorry, I'm not buying it until the speeds/times are more humanly possible. Hell dudes I've raced against in amateur racing have been getting popped for doping!!! Cat4's, Cat3's Masters racers, so if they are doping, I am to believe the pro's aren't?