Originally Posted by rms13

What makes one frame better than another? I know guys racing and winning Cat 1 races on open mold Chinese carbon frames that cost $5-600 and are 950 g. Those guys probably put down more watts than all of us combined and their frames are not falling apart.

There are weight differences, material, geo, tube shape etc. For the record, I have never owned a Fuji but I know a couple of people with newer Roubaix and Sportif and the frames look nice to me for the money. They have nice clean welds that almost look like a carbon bike on part with some of the nicer aluminum frames on the market. I also know people with Bikesdirect bikes. Their aluminum tends to be heavier and have big ugly welds but I don't know anyone who's frame has broken