Originally Posted by
JerrySTL
I remember a guy writing into one of the bike magazines asking how to climb up steep hills while out of the saddle and on the drops like the Tour riders do.
The answer was basically "Those guys aren't like you and me."
IMO, TdF cycling is to non-competitive bicycling or bicycling in traffic, as NASCAR/F1 racing is to driving in traffic; lessons/technique to be learned applicable to routine day to day bicycling from either version of racing may be interesting to discuss, but are of questionable value in real life.