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Old 08-10-15 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by andr0id
You should be a politician, while you're not lying it's not really the truth.

let's take an "average" rider that's not a pro and not overweight. a guy that's 170 lbs in his tighty-whities. he's going to be wearing about 5 lbs of gear to cycle including shoes, helmet and clothing. So you got a 175 lb rider.

Now you got your 15 lb bike and your 20 lb bike, but not really because you go riding with 2 bottle of water unless you're an idiot. So we're talking about 48 oz in 2 x 24 oz bottles which is pretty much the norm. That's 3 lbs.

Let's assume our rider never get flats, but if you do, that's another 2 lbs in your saddle bag.

So we've turned our 15 lb bike into an 18 lb bike and our 20 lb bike into a 23 lb bike.

Now we add it up 175 + 18 = 193 lbs for the 15 lb bike and 198 lbs for the 20 lb bike. That's total mass on the hoof which is what counts. The bike doesn't ride by itself.

So the truth is that you looking at 193 vs. 198. So in fact there is only a 2.5% difference.

Unless you are instrumented with a PowerTap or other types of scientific meters, you will not be able to tell a 2.5% difference and even then only on a longer ride where you are comparing data over several runs with 2 types of bikes.

Spending a lot of money makes a lighter bike a pleasure to ride.
Any decent road bike at 20 lbs or under is going to be more than sufficient unless you're a pro.
Where that mass is located also makes a difference. You can put heavy wheels on a light frame to make it perform like the heavier bike does.

With all due respect, I'm pretty experienced in why light bikes are more fun (completely subjective) than heavier bikes. We don't need a math equation to understand that when you put ME on a heavier bike it is "slower" than a lighter bike. I've ridden both, not once or twice, over five decades.

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