Originally Posted by
KonAaron Snake
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Koga Miyata has a full line of bikes...from carbon Uber machines to city bikes. They focus on trekking with the steel offerings, but not many companies offer full lines in steel. As far as miyata's triple butted stuff, I like their bikes a lot...but best in the world maybe a stretch. Lots of nice tubing out there, including miyata. It does run a touch heavy, and doesn't have the most lively ride in my experience.
I'm partial to lotus and Miyata as far as the japanese stuff.
Yeah I noticed now that Koga is offering other types of bikes besides Touring.
As far a liveliness goes with Miyata, I find that in error, I have two with that triple butted tubing as well as other frames from other manufactures in addition to having once owned others, and the Miyata are the most lively I've ever ridden in the vintage steel department; but in the quest of having a stiff frame with very little flex compared to other frames they did make the frame a tad heavier (by about 1/2 pound from the lighter offerings) than a few of the lighter offerings in the day, but those lighter offerings flexed more. Actually my Team at 21.1 pounds is tied for second lightest vintage steel bike I have, the lightest one I have is the Fuji Club which scaled at 20.8 the other 21.1 is the Trek 660 which weighed less when I had it in racing form back in the 80's which was probably closer to the Fuji.