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Bikes: Brompton M6R Raw, Pashley Roadster Sovereign, ICE Trike with Rohloff (SOLD) - Pacific Coast Highway

Originally Posted by Rob_E
I think what's already been suggested, and what you've already talked about doing, is a good idea: take the upright bike out for a nice, long ride. Maybe do an overnight trip, to see how it works loaded up.

I always thought I'd like to be as upright as possible, but I ended up finding a happy medium between bolt upright and hunched over drop bars.

The problem is the longer I spend with all my weight on the saddle, the less comfortable it is. For shorter rides, I like an upright position. But sometimes even on a short ride there's wind and maybe rain that you don't want hitting you full in the face.

I don't have any photos of me on the bike, but here's my little Tote/Cycle, may it rest in peace.



It was very upright, and lots of fun to ride. Super stable, too. I don't think it was all about seat to handlebar height, either. The distance between from the seat to the bars is also a factor, and for bike stability, I think the seat in relation to the wheels is a factor. The Tote/Cycle seemed to put my weight close to the center of the bike, and I think that helped make the ride more solid without me making an effort to support some of my weight up front.

I loved riding it around town. My five mile commute was fine. Shortly before I found that bike, my wife had bought me a new hybrid and she used to get annoyed that my hybrid sat at home while the 30 year old Tote/Cycle got all the ride time. But I probably never road it more than 30 miles in a day. It got less comfortable the longer I rode it after 10 miles or so. It was great for bopping around down town where I was on and off the bike all the time, but it wasn't great for a long stretch of riding.

Then there's my Long Haul Trucker.



Bars are lower. definitely more stretched out. Not as low or as stretched out as drop bars, but it means I can move some of my weight forward. Much better for riding all day. LHT is still a really stable bike, but you can feel it when there's a lot of weight in the back and none in the front. It's not a good feeling. But with the right bar positioning, you can shift a little weight forward and all is well. I was pretty sure I wanted to be as upright as possible when I got the bike. I started out with the bars as high as possible, the flipped them to get them a little lower while improving the angle of the bars, and then began slowly moving them down. There were a couple of spacers above the stem when I finally disassembled that bike the other day. I never felt like I couldn't see the world around me, but I was definitely not upright, but nor was I laid down across the bike like I was in a race. It was surprising because I went in assuming that a bolt-upright position was exactly what I wanted.

Still, if I was not going to spend hours at a time without stopping, I could see a more upright bike being fun. So give it a try. Put in some real miles and see how it feels. And in the end, the best bike to ride on a tour is bike you enjoy being on. Good luck.
thanks for all of this... I do think I'll be more upright than drops, but not completely bolt upright. Just shallow enough so I'm not putting pressure on my hands. I don't think bolt upright is what I want, but definitely more upright than most people practice. But as I mentioned from the outset, I don't see a lot of pictures of bikes with people on them and how upright they are. And many who have already posted their upright positions here seem hunched over to me, but once I get my picture of me on my Pashley, I'll be able to compare.

The Nitto Boscos are quite long, and can be shortened if needed. If I find I want to lean more forward, I can try it out, and adjust it accordingly.

I do like to stop often, which is another reason I got to camp so long after my camp buddies. I love talking to people, checking out stores or sights. I would often stop just to look and observe where I was. I'm very much a stop and smell the roses tourer. And I love to stop and take pictures too. Speed and getting to the destination has never factored in as a high priority.

I'll report back after my 100km Pashley wine tour! If I make it that far. *smile*
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