What do I not get about these saddles? Trying out a lite 209 and it's giving me the same problems the dynamic and plus did last year (the nose on the plus was too wide as well). It destroys my crotch and crushes my boys into oblivion. The very thing its supposed to prevent. I can run it level to severely nose down to the point I'm sliding off and it still crushes my scrotum on the nose. My balls are squished with authority into the top of the nose, the hook point at its highest peak, before the nose drops down into the "beak" shape.

I'm not sure if they just aren't for me but I can't recall ever speaking or reading about anyone else with this issue. Most who are against them state sit bone pain or sitting on a brick. It's the exact opposite for me, I have zero sit bone discomfort, but extreme pressure, which even the naysayers at least agree it helps in the that area.

I really want one to work because they are the only saddle with a full cutout that I don't get chafing with. I'm wondering if it's a fore/aft issue? I've started with the same setback as old saddle, and increased it up to 15mm forward as suggested by hogg and pierce. Am I sitting on the wrong area? The saddle seems to put you where it wants you regardless of where you hop on within a few pedal strokes.

Has anyone else had experiences like this? I've tried lite 209 and dynamic. The dynamic was last year but I remember the same issue. Also played with a plus but nose was too wide from the get go.