Old 08-20-15 | 10:56 PM
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Bikes: 2011 Felt Z85 (road/commuter), 2006 Marin Pine Mountain (utility/commuter E-bike), 1995 KHS Alite 1000 (gravel grinder)

Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Not afraid, but concerned that naive cyclists or policy makers take such dogmatic spiel seriously. The John Forester Klan already set back cycling advocacy anywhere it found enough acolytes to have an influence on bicycling policy. I believe that finally the alleged claimed superior safety record claimed by Vehicular Cyclists is being recognized as the statistical smoke and mirrors conceit of its proponents.
I have not read Forester. I only know of him from what I've heard others say. I believe he is for zero infrastructure, yes? That is not me, I support well designed infrastructure that doesn't lure cyclists into manufactured conflicts by violating normal rules of movement. I also support leaving it up to each cyclist whether or not to use that infrastructure. I should not have to endure harassment for not using a bike lane or path that I feel is unsafe at the speed I'm going.

i don't strive to preach any particular cycling ideology. I only share what works for me and what I've had such great success with. What baffles me is people who push SO HARD against the techniques I practice and share, as if it's the plague or something.

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