Originally Posted by ooga-booga

having more than two at a sitting while on a ride tends to rob me of any ambition i had of going harder/farther on 50+ mile rides.

i do have a couple of staple 40-70 mile rides incorporating a brewery/tasting room/gastropub as the lunch destination/turnaround point and have never had a problem making it home.

in the craft beer capital of america-san diego-my problem arises when i'm not "feeling it" on a ride and instead of fighting through it,
i tend to bail out on the ride and hit any one of 50+ destos for a fantastic beer or two.

funny how my best rides are far from (20+ miles) any quality craft beer influence.