Thanks for the tips. That's what happened with the target bike. The girl kept taking 5 dollars off but she was way off--originally wanted like 175 or something. When I wrote her and showed her that the bike was less than that brand new, she immediately took the price down and it was swept right away from me before I got a chance to go over there.

The Sprint I'm going to see today is a flip so I'm not sure if she will do anything about the price. I guess it's worth asking.

My current bike has a sloped top tube but it bugs me when riding in busy areas and having to stop often. I attribute this to weight/agilty though so I hope to return to riding it or switch back and forth between the two.