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Old 09-01-15 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by elcruxio
Doesn't matter with spokes. A spoke goes through it's individual stress cycles and is not really affected by the other spokes. You can mix and match as much as you like.
May not matter for the system as a whole, but a weak spoke is a weak spoke. The weakest will still be the first to break, even if it's not taking any extra burden from its neighbors.

Bought a Marin bike several years ago and started breaking spokes on the rear wheel. After paying for the first two spokes to be replaced, I got tired of spending money and being deprived of my bike for days at a time, so I learned how to do it myself. Spokes continued to break, one at time, until every spoke on one side of the wheel had been replaced. Then everything was good.

Bought a Handspun front wheel. I didn't think it was completely true when I got it, so I straightened it up a bit. I don't think I had any problems with it after that. I might have put it back in stand once during the five or so years it lasted.

Currently running two wheels I got from Taylor Wheels in Germany. I figured that if nothing else, a trip across the ocean would have knocked them out of true, but I put them in the stand and could find no flaw. Less than 6 months on that set, but so far, so good.

Other wheels I've had are ones I've built myself. I don't have a tensioner (plan to get one, though), and I tension by first tightening everything evenly and then by tone and feel. There has been some trial and error. My first wheel went great. My 2nd one took around 3 builds to get the number of crosses and the spoke heads placed where I didn't get breaks. After that, it worked fine. I've only built maybe half a dozen wheels, but they've held up well. I tend to run hub gears, which means I can dish everything pretty evenly, which simplifies things.

So I guess the only experience I have with real factory wheels is the Marin, and the experience wasn't great (no issues with the front wheel, though). I have no idea what the process is for making the Handspun or Taylor wheels, but Taylor in particular feels pretty solid. They may be hand built, but even if not, I think they made a point on their site of mentioning that they use quality spokes. And for me, that has made the difference. No amount of truing and tensioning my Marin wheel helped until I had replaced the bad spokes, and other builds I have done were troublesome until I found a good spoke to use. These days, I would take a chance on a wheel if it had the components I want, like the Taylor Wheels I just bought, but for the most part, my build requirements are pretty specific, so I'm more likely just to make the wheels myself.
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