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Old 09-03-15 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by FlatsFixed
That Surley frame made today is just a welded frame. I can buy that same frame for 100 dollars if I buy 100 or more at the same time.
support your local bike builders the moment you feel your going to spend 1500 dollars or more look around for a frame builder.

done ranting. support your local frame builders.
You are ranting about a $500 frame and listing the reasons its inferior to an individually built frame by a local builder which you even acknowledge is way more than $500.
Seems odd.
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