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wphamilton , thanks. I am new at working on some of this stuff but I'll learn it. I'm a mechanic by trade though now I design equipment and tooling. I understand most of what's going on, right or wrong on the bike but knowing exactly what to expect or what the systems are capable of is where I'll have to learn as I go. And I'm not opposed to taking something to the shop when it's over my head or just don't want to mess with it but for me, a trip to the closest competent bike shop is an hour + drive each way and they require the bike to be left.