Ok scratch RHT. How about SGRT from whittier to Sante fe dam? Is that something roadies normally ride at night? I seldom see any roadies on the roads at night in my area near Pasadena/Arcadia. However, in Irvine I would ride the san diego creek trail at night (8-10 pm) and see quite a bit of people including walkers, joggers, commuters, and roadies.