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Old 09-15-15 | 05:00 PM
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B. Carfree
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Originally Posted by kickstart
More infrastructure leads to more cyclists, which leads to more infrastructure, which leads to more cyclists, which leads to more.......

They go hand in hand, discouraging one discourages the other.
I should just fix it for you and substitute traffic law enforcement every place you put infrastructure. Davis, which had a bicycle modal share much higher than any of the segregated cities has ever had before it put in any segregated infrastructure, showed that enforcement works. They also conveniently showed that when the enforcement portion is replaced with infrastructure, the former cyclists don't return to their bikes in comparable numbers. Oh yeah, and PDX keeps adding segregated infrastructure and keeps not seeing any increases in modal share from the days when they added only bike lanes.

Just listen to the howls from motorists when automated traffic enforcement facilities are proposed. They know intuitively that driving is a major hassle when one has to follow the law. The relative hassle between cycling and driving is key to modal share.

While I'm hassling you, let's drop the straw man argument that people opposed to segregation are opposed to bike lanes (and decent rideable shoulders). Those are proven to work for all riders in an American environment. Segregation? Not so much.
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