Originally Posted by
eschlwc
^ you seemed to be the most outspoken about it. and you've only had one bike with arabesque.
it reminds of someone going into a bike shop one time, having a bad experience, then writing a page-long negative review online.
Again, I'm confident that my experience with the performance of the components is not at all uncommon. I feel confident in stating that.
Again, if someone is riding a bike that shifts poorly and brakes worse... but they know they're riding a 'well renown' group- they're going to be hesitant to change it out- thinking the problem is them. If that person figures out that the group is pretty much only desired for the aesthetic... that person can feel a lot more free to swap that stuff out.
You'll also notice that I'm more than happy to post my good experiences with all kinds of stuff. I don't have any sort of following, just another experience online.
My online opinion by itself means nothing. But taking 25 first hand accounts and realizing that more than 2/3 are bad... there's a pattern there.
My posting of my experience is not going to damage Shimano's business opportunities in their selling of bike parts that have been discontinued for over 30 years.
So why did you replace your Cyclone stuff with Cyclone stuff if it shifted so poorly?