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Old 10-02-15 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by spectastic
now to address the cons..
  1. can p clamps provide enough support for a 30-40 lb loaded rack? furthermore, can a typical well built carbon seat stay handle the extra weight at the lower seat stay joints? (the answer varies with the build, so let's just make a sensible assumption that the frame is more a cx frame, and not a tarmac, cervelo, cannondale evo, or any of the race style bikes)
  2. how common are frame damage in a given tour? where are the failures most common? (if it's bb, head tube, or dropouts, it's probably game over)
  3. carbon fiber frames can be protected. people have used inner tubes, or other polymeric material that disperses the force. are these generally adequate to protect the carbon frame for a long tour?
  4. I'm sure there are ways to make a carbon bike look ugly (eg. wrap it in inner tube)
  5. I get it, Murphy's Law.. carbon fiber isn't designed to handle forces equally in all directions. but again, assume that it's a well built cx frame, not a superlight giant propel advanced sl... what are some specific touring scenarios where a carbon fiber frame would be at risk?
My ideal touring bike would probably be carbon fiber, but I doubt that I would choose it for the usage you propose. I would think of ways to reduce your proposed gear weight long before even considering a CF bike unless maybe you will be pulling a trailer.

  1. P clamps on carbon are probably a bad idea. There are other answers including using the brake bridge bolt and skewers. Also canti brake bosses work if you have them. Then there are the various rackless solutions.
  2. Probably not a problem until you start carrying too much and/or start using p clamps. BTW, repairs can be done with epoxy and cloth so doing a roadside repair may actually be easier than with a metal frame. I think the notion of repairing frames on tour is kind of a stretch any way, since for short tours the tour is probably over and for a long one getting another whole bike or a frame sent from home may be a more likely option.
  3. I wouldn't bother. Just use reasonable care. Their fragility is often overstated.
  4. Again I wouldn't bother. Use reasonable care in where you leave the bike and don't worry. If you really must put a few splotches of primer here and there.
  5. I really don't think the risk is any big deal. You do want to avoid sharp stress points like p clamps. You also want to take some care to minimize impacts with sharp objects.

The big question is why would you bother to go carbon and then carry 30-40 pounds of stuff? It is pretty easy to camp and cook with 20 pounds of gear. It seems like you would start by leaving a lot of that 30-40 pounds of stuff home before going to CF for the frame.
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