Originally Posted by
Wildrat
Yeap, I tried the PVC pipe trick. It did not work I guess because of the chrome on the fork. The LBS charged me $5 to put it on and told me he would press the star nut in when I get the tube cut for nothing.
Here is a pic of the washers I added for clearance between the brake and headset. I have to get some aluminum washers to go with the stainless because of dissimilar metals. The steel with aluminum will cause corrosion.
Shame it didn't work, but 5 bucks is a small amount to pay for it to be done.
Looking like it's getting there now.
The other plus with 5800 is that the shifter internals aren't exposed (I don't think) like the 5700 version. Even the previous 105 5600 has closed shifters. I guess that with 5700 they tried to keep costs down by doing this. I've never had a problem with my 5700 shifters, but it just makes you wonder about rain, grit and road crud spraying up into them and damaging them/shortening their life.
5600 levers, when changing, the whole upper part of the lever pivots along with it. On the 5700 it doesn't. Personally, I think that 5600 had a smoother, easier lever throw than the 5700 does. 5700 seems a bit 'clunky' to be honest, but that's just my experience. Plus, the hood shape and feel of the 5600 vs 5700 was a lot more comfortable.
5600 - enclosed internals and whole lever pivots when shifting.
5700 - exposed internals and lever pivots only up to where the 105 nameplate is.
I think they tried to improve 5600 with 5700 but the only thing that came of it was the 'aero', under tape cable routing, which some say adds friction, so was it a good thing after all? It seems that they've rolled back to the main key factors of 5600 with 5800 and just made improvements. You learn these things after buying components LOL!