Originally Posted by
redfooj
5-10 years ago, top end bikes were 5k, now theyre 10-15k so the market has moved up a bit, and maybe we all need a bit of calibration
anyway, sora-tiagra is entry level. trek 1.2 is entry level. entry level being those getting into cycling with "enthusiasm", coupling their purchase with lycra and pedals. anything below primarily sold to those who wants something to put on the MUP for a few weekends and then leave in the garange to a rotting death.
hell, claris is now 3 gears different from 105. not making claims on performance, just compatibility for future upgrades for those same enthusiasts.
anyway, a 850EUR canyon/tiagra comes in at 19#, and 1000EUR canyon/105 comes in at 17.8#, and 1400EUR at 17.0#
theres a sweet spot for everything and dropping 700$ for a 20# claris porker is like a geo metro that i wouldnt advise any friend who wants to get into the sport
I'm not sure I understand your thought process.
A 20 pound bike will require less than 1 watt more than a 17 pound bike to maintain 20mph on a flat grade.
The max speed difference for a 300 watt effort on a 5% grade is less than 1/10th of a MPH.
It the rider on the 20lb bike weighs 3lbs less, there is no difference.
How does that mean a 20# Claris bike is a Geo Metro, but a 17lb bike is far superior?