Originally Posted by
Needles
So, playing devil's advocate, if adding weight would be of little benefit, why pay more for a frame that weighs less than 20 lbs when a 40lb frame costs a lot less? All that cutting weight by grams and/or ounces is just BS?

Right. If you ride a heavier bike (and/or add weight) in a group ride,
and keep up, you clearly worked harder than the riders on weenie bikes. I'd like to hear how working harder wouldn't make one stronger. (and therefore faster after dumping the weight)