Originally Posted by
rpenmanparker
Aren't you being a little bit disingenuous? Fess up. There isn't anything that BoSoxYacht could say that you would find convincing. I mean there is no way he can have world-wide data for all of Shimano, Campy, and SRAM components with their actual mechanical failure specifics and relative problem counts. Clearly the best he can do is somewhat anecdotal, but still relevant due to relating to many, many cases not just his personal experience with his own bike. I have never bought into the BS like "pics or it didn't happen," that you see so often on forums. And that goes for "published data or it isn't true" also. That is just a dodge to avoid accepting the sensible reality that is being presented to you. And that is what I meant by being disingenuous. You have no reason to disbelieve him, but you want to, so you say his data isn't good enough. Much better would be for you to refute his claims with a data pool at least as deep as his. And keep in mind all this comes from a person who only rides SRAM on three bikes and never plans to change.
I wouldn't say I'm being disingenuous, but more of a practiced skeptic. I have every reason to disbelieve, since claims are made without proof. Stating something like SRAM sucks and has a high failure rate, without the proof to back the claim will not receive a benefit-of-the-doubt from me. He's trying to pass off subjective bias as objective fact, and making claims that people are being "suckered into buying" their products. Sorry, but no matter how experienced one person is, it is still an anecdote.
SRAM has a high failure rate = bad logical statement without proof.
SRAM has a high failure rate in my experience = getting better, but still not a logical statement without showing what that rate is.
I see more SRAM components in my shop needing repair/replacement than the other brands = better still, but you still need the numbers to back that statement.
I don't like SRAM = this is a good statement, and logical, since it states an opinion from the user, of the user's own.