Originally Posted by
IAmSam
Scrodzilla and I do not agree on much but he just gave you what is likely the last, most decent low-price lugged frameset currently out there.
If you must have a complete lugged-frame bike on a budget - you might as well stop dicking around and go ahead and get the State bike.
Good luck...
Thanks, I think you're right. I think I'll go with the (unlugged) Kilo TT for now, and go for something lugged when I have enough cash for the Wabi, or enough time to build something from scratch. Thanks again for the help.