That's cause we're buying the cheap stuff. If we can get enough people to meet the minimums on the San Remo, or even on the Aero Race stuff (bibs/jersey), that stuff is great if a bit delicate. I still think what you get for the price from Giordana is better, but Castelli is fine. I actually really like everything except the Team jersey, which feels very last-decade. The plus side is that durability for the Team jersey and bibs are superb, they really last. I've also been happy with the cyclocross skinsuits, for what it's worth.