Who said anything about need? I don't need a light wheelset, nor do I need (or have) a particularly light bike. What I do want to do, is break 20# on my super sport. I know it won't accomplish anything for me performance wise, but I need one more wheelset anyway, so why not make it something lighter. The wheels Im using now are 105 hub 32 hole wheels, velocity fusion in back and open pro in front. They're going to survive armageddon at the penalty of 1800 g. Thanks for the American Classic recommendation, thats some astonishing durability to survive being run over with only tension issues!