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Old 11-11-15, 11:04 AM
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I love this thread!

Just eyeballing the photos, though, this thread seems to confirm my observation about C&V Japanese frame geometry: they all look like they're about 2-3cm shorter in the top tube than comparable English or French bikes of the '70s and '80s (e.g., my Raleigh International or Peugeot P8). I love everything else about the Japanese bikes, but the reach and wheelbase tend to be shorter than I'd want for a stable tourer. Do y'all agree? Notable exceptions?
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