Originally Posted by DrIsotope

I'm watching to see if we get anyone in here living life-long license-less in the state of California... because I reckon it impossible. We have a skeleton of a mass transit system, 90% of the roads have no accommodations for cyclists, and (I know this gets thrown around a lot) but everything is too spread out. My wife has a short commute to work-- just 28 miles one way, by freeway. I rode it on the bike, it's 33 by surface streets, and I was in a bike line for less than 5 of those miles.

So California, two kids, work commute... yeah, we need licenses. I maybe could have lived car free at 23, though. But I drove to Vegas to get married at 20, so I guess maybe I couldn't.