Just for yuks I did some measuring yesterday. I've done the same measurements several times in the last few years and always come to the same conclusions, then promptly chose to ignore them. I had put a 90mm stem on the Masi and 80mm on everything else, since the Masi is nominally smaller. In fact the distance from the nose of the saddle (all the same but one) and the handlebar was within 5mm of the same for all except the Champion Team which was nearly 1cm longer. I don't recall ever thinking it was too long while riding it.

In the old days I never thought about it but maybe a decade or two (or three) ago I began to wonder if my UO-8 was too long. It doesn't feel too long now though, and its saddle-to-bar distance is about the same as the others. But it rides as if it were bigger.

When I first get on the Masi it sometimes feels smaller, not cramped but shorter. That feeling lasts all of about 100 yards before it feels just right. Since the longitudinal distances pretty much match the other bikes, the difference might be the saddle-bar drop, or the saddle-crank position. Anyway, it is more something wonder at than to worry over.

Addendum: I mis-under-remembered. The Masi is slightly shorter reach but the Gazelle is currently set up about 3cm shorter! Surprisingly it does not feel cramped at all. It does like to go fast. But then so do the Masi and the Motobecane.

Never mind. I don't know what I'm talking about.