Originally Posted by
JohnJ80
Your Roadie looks like it has a slightly more relaxed geometry than the typical Roadie - or is that just the photo?
Got me, its the only one I've seen.
Originally Posted by
JohnJ80
The difference between the Roadie and the Sport is frame stiffness, a more upright posture and more tire clearance. I don't think the posture difference is more than what you would get by changing the stem rise angle.
Here is what Gunnar lists as the difference between them:
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[TR]
[TD]Size:[/TD]
[TD]Roadie 580
[/TD]
[TD]Sport 580[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Seatmast:[/TD]
[TD]550[/TD]
[TD]550[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Wheel:[/TD]
[TD]700C[/TD]
[TD]700C[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Top Tube (Theo):[/TD]
[TD]570[/TD]
[TD]570[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Seat Angle:[/TD]
[TD]73[/TD]
[TD]73[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Head Angle:[/TD]
[TD]73.5[/TD]
[TD]72.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fork Rake:[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]45[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Trail:[/TD]
[TD]54
[/TD]
[TD]61[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Headtube Length:[/TD]
[TD]169[/TD]
[TD]189[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Top Tube Slope:[/TD]
[TD]6.8[/TD]
[TD]7.7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bottom Bracket Drop:[/TD]
[TD]70[/TD]
[TD]75[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Stack:[/TD]
[TD]587[/TD]
[TD]612[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Reach:[/TD]
[TD]391[/TD]
[TD]382[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fitmaster HT:[/TD]
[TD]580[/TD]
[TD]592[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fitmaster Reach:[/TD]
[TD]565[/TD]
[TD]575[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Avg. Standover (mm):[/TD]
[TD]804[/TD]
[TD]810[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Avg. Standover (in):[/TD]
[TD]31.7[/TD]
[TD]31.9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Chainstay Length:[/TD]
[TD]410[/TD]
[TD]430[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Front Center:[/TD]
[TD]593
[/TD]
[TD]603[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Wheelbase:[/TD]
[TD]992
[/TD]
[TD]1022[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Originally Posted by
JohnJ80
My other bike is a custom stainless frame from Anderson Custom Bicycles that is superb and much more like your Roadie frame (max tire clearance 28c, no rack mounts, more aggressive riding position), Ultegra Di2. That bike weighs 16.5 lbs without pedals.
Wow, what size? The size 56 full carbon Ultegra Di2 I saw Wednesday weighed 18 lbs.