Originally Posted by
JohnDThompson
Ishiwata's "Alpha" tubing used 0.6/0.4mm walls, but that's about as thin as I've seen. Dents become a real concern with these extremely thin wall tubes. Alpha was thin enough that you could actually dent it with your hands with a strong squeeze.
I'm sure that's right, but how then do you take advantage of the strength of 853 to lighten a steel bike?