Originally Posted by
Jarrett2
So you're suggesting that frame builders would purposely choose a more expensive, but also heavier tubeset to build a frame from just to trick a buyer into thinking he got a thinner tubeset? Well... I suppose that is possible
As many say, there is a point at which you have to put some amount of trust in a frame builder. I guess unless you show up at their factory with some digital calipers... this would be one of those times

No. Not at all. I'm asking what is the point of offering all the same tubes in 853 that you offer in 525? They weigh the same in either material. It is known the 525 tubes are sufficiently strong by virtue of their greater wall thicknesses. Why do you need to overspend for the same tubes in 853 when the 525 tubes would do the job? Why not limit the 853 selection to those thinner tube gauges that the 525 isn't strong enough for? All those thick 853 tubes aren't offered for no reason. Some builders must be using them. And IMO those people who are using them are wasting the customer's money, just selling them on the imagined virtue of a complete 853 bike when partially 525 would be just as good. Now if you want all tubes to be the thinnest possible, of course it must be all 853 or similar. But then that whole list of thick tubes I referred you too would be there for no reason.