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Yeah, it is in the normal range for camping and cooking. It is very heavy for credit card touring. That is OK if it is what you want, but calling it "light and fast credit card style" is a misnomer.

For that weight maybe something like the AWOL, but folks might use anything from a race bike to a heavy tourer like an LHT. I think it would be more fun to cut that load by at least half and get by with a seat bag and a bar roll or handlebar bag on a sporty road bike. Given that I was pretty comfortable on a coast to coast camping and cooking trip with half your proposed weight, going much lighter should be pretty easy for credit card touring, if you want to.