Originally Posted by
jimmuller
I had a nice Cinelli reference URL but it is no longer functional. Please tell me about the shapes of the various bar model (Giro d'Italia, Campione del Mondo, model 63, 64, 66, whatever), and if it's not too much trouble when the various engravings changed. And the stem models?
Yes, I know they used used 26.4mm for a while then went to 26.0. Are there particular models or years to be avoided because they are prone to failure?
Of course I'm looking for a traditional road bar, width 38-40cm, not too aggressive drops though I don't ride the drops very much anyway. Thanks!
Jim, I remember a great website that had a great timeline on Cinelli bars and stems. I think that it may have been 43bikes.com-website??? which is no longer up.
This link shows a 1983 Cinelli catalog page with their 1a. 2a and 2r stems plus some of their bars:
http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/cinelli/cinelli-4.jpg
The Cinelli XA model stem is the one that I've heard had problems. Link to a BF thread:
http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...l#post10030466
Robert Broderick posted this info on Cinelli bars back in 2009:
-----> pre 1979 Cino Cinelli era (...i.e. crested logo - NOT flying "C")
model 63 - sizes: 38 / 40
model 64 - sizes: 38 / 40
model 65 - sizes: 38 / 40
model 66 - sizes: 38 / 40 / 42
model 67 - sizes: 38
-----> post 1978 A.L. Columbo / Columbus era (...i.e. flying "C" logo through the mid 1980's - NOT the earlier crested logo)
model 63 - Campione del Mondo - sizes: 38 / 39 / 40
model 64 - Giro d'Italia - sizes: 38 / 39 / 40
model 65 - Criterium - sizes: 38 / 39 / 40
model 66 - Campione del Mondo - sizes: 38 / 39 / 40 / 42
model 67 - Pista - sizes: 39
All of the above data points were culled directly from original Cinelli
catalog and/or brochure publications. It is perhaps worthy to note that the
appearance of the interim width 39 cm handlebars did not occur until after
Columbus acquired Cinelli. Moreover, only the model 66 version of the
Campione del Mondo was made available prior to the mid 1980's in the larger
42 cm sizing (...I happen to have a pre 1979 crested logo 66 / 42 designated
for use on my 1977 Peugeot PY-10/CP Thevenet TdF replica).
And finally,Cinelli uses the traditional C-t-C measurement standard for all of their
handlebars as opposed to the O-t-O methodology employed by 3ttt - which
means that one need take care whenever comparing widths stipulated by those
two respective manufacturers.
The difference between the model 63 and 66 handlebars which are both given the
Campione del Mondo "name" designation would be the size of the drop where
the model 66 is 10 cm deeper than its model 63 counterpart.
Robert Broderick"
I think that these pictures came from an old Ron Kitching catalog - bad scan:
Early Cinelli bars had 26.4mm center sections. Later they switched to the somewhat industry standard 26mm. Same with the stems.
Stems were available with 22.2mm British and Italian diameter quills and in the 22.0mm metric diameter for French, Spanish and some Swiss bikes.
HTH...
verktyg
Chas.