Why buy Nashbar when you can get a F&R set of Ortlieb City panniers shipped CONUS for $198? Ortlieb City set weighs less than Nashbar Waterproof set (2730 vs 3033g). The Nashbar set presently costs me $121 with 7% tax, so the Ortlieb set costs $78 more. The Ortlieb panniers will attach better, rattle less, remove easier, last longer, are actually waterproof and probably cost less in the long run. If you decide to sell your used panniers you'll probably get a higher % of cost on the sale of the Ortliebs over Nashbar.

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