That nearly describes the situation I described above. Taylor and Salmon are quiet residential streets but bicycle highways that cross the 4 lane Caesar Chavez Avenue. At rush hour a huge pain to cross in a car. The bike buttons are right beside the street, easily reachable without putting your foot down (although you are going to have to unless you can trackstand for a while).

This setup encourages bikes but not cars to use the street. (Cars cannot activate anything. It is stop sign only for them. So when CC Ave is busy, it could be a long wait unless there are bikes!

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Well I was referring more to larger streets that both get regular traffic, although this one street I'm crossing in the afternoon has much more traffic, and the traffic from my direction is next to nothing (traffic opposite me is much more). I only get a green if there are other cars going straight with me, which often there are not. Left and right turning traffic do not activate the green light. There are no crosswalks or signals there, and no sidewalks, and the traffic light pole on the corner is very far away. So if there were a button I would not want to move across right-turning traffic in the RTO lane to try to push it.