This gets funnier and funnier. I know my riding style isn't the norm. I am not looking for a debate. How do you debate different personalities? I am simply saying that there is an alternative approach that OP may not have considered. You may have liked it better if I had disclaimed my statement seven ways from Sunday like, "I know this is odd," or "It may be just my weirdness," or something like that, but I don't see that as necessary. The real issue is why are you guys so defensive about being so competitive? Do you also need me to approve your drive for you to be happy? You are how you are, and I am how I am. I don't see how having both those views expressed in the thread should be a problem for anybody.