I agree with you on that one, it parallels my own experience...Only bodybuilders and crossfitters are dumb enough to take every exercise to a complete failure, and the more soreness they have the more they brag about it. ...It seems that the goals of many gym rats are to destroy and annihilate themselves with their workouts...This " no pain no gain" dogma needs to die. There is a fine line between intensity and overdoing it..."stimulate but don't annihilate"