No worries I checked out the C&V forum anyway! It does appear that bikes are like stereo equipment in the late 70's, pretty much out dated within 30 days buying the gear. Why cant I get the emoticons to post to my replies!! Sorry no pies at our house. Brenda calls it the "devils" food! No Bread at our house either. Wheat is the Devils food as well She is on the no carb kick as well , but her no carb/low carb cooking is the best!! Myself sill love a good Big Mac with Fries and a chocolate shake!!! I will post a pic of some kind of food. I pretty much a like Mikey though, I'll eat and enjoy anything!