Old 01-08-16 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by noglider
@njkayaker, what problems do you have with it?
There really are no recommendatiions in it. It's a hodgepodgy mess of a rant.

There is a problem with visibility (even the Netherlands recognizes it).

Mandatory helmet laws aren't the same issue as visibility.

"Lifepaint" and "Smart Hats" aren't actually things.

The proposed CA mandatory helmet law is no longer a thing either.

Bike lanes aren't magic.

NYC isn't Amsterdam. Handwaving (even if it's vigorous) isn't going to do much to make NYC anything like Amsterdam.

Originally Posted by noglider
My own personal take, which others do not have to adopt, is that risk of serious injury or death per trip (not per mile or per hour) is the important metric FOR ME, and it appears to be lower on bike than in a car.
If you drove your car like you the way you have to ride (slower, much shorter distances, on secondary roads), your "risk of serious injury or death per trip" might be much lower in a car.

The risk to you can be separated into due to you and due to other people. In places where you are typically riding, being in a car would reduce the risk to you due to other people.

Originally Posted by noglider
The lower speeds we use on bicycles does seem to make us safer than we typically are in cars.
(Limit the speed of cars.) There could be a trade-off.

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