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Old 01-11-16 | 05:35 PM
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ErichVonCartman
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Originally Posted by FrozenK
And this, gentlemen is a fine example of the straw man argument. While people have been arguing that full suspension is faster in some conditions, Eric is now claiming that the argument is "full suspension is always faster." That is what we would call "the straw man" that he would then burn.

Incidentally, a vague reference to an unreferenced article does not qualify as "data." Data would be the fact that top racers (Schurter, Absalon, Kulhavy, Fumic...) swap between hardtail and full suspension depending on terrain. And this terrain dependence has a lot more to do with how rough the trail is than how many feet they climb per lap.

OK, glad we cleared that up to take down all the straw men... I was not purposely trying to set up a straw man... and if you go back and read my initial posts, I did say "In the big picture, hard tail will always be faster"... so I have been talking about the big picture all along. I am sorry if you did not pick that up, but now that you have it... and moving forward.....

1) I question that the same rider would still NOT win on a FS bike...
2) What has changed for FS to be needed on a XC Race when they were never needed in the first place? Are they putting in more DH and obstacles to build the Race Course to suit the bike?

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