Originally Posted by
ptempel
+1
I also had a 3.0 bike a long time ago. I call it "the brick".

Was the only frame that
claimed that you could stand on the seatstays and not bend them. I'll believe it. You must have had a pretty spectacular crash to break this one...
Correct. Lay a 3.0 or earlier frame flat on the ground, and you can put your whole body weight on the dropout. I think they ran an ad of a guy standing on the dropout.
I wonder if my son's back would be less sore if he wasn't on my old Cannondale .... hmmmm.